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PostSubject: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:55 pm

Hello everyone! I was doing some thinking and decided to make a new post to bring us all together to help each other solve this mystery. As everyone probably already knows i'm a Biology major and like to look at the scientific side of paranormal research. I have a few connections with my Bio professors along with the last 2 years of school to relate with ideas. Instead of basing on the same equipment everyone uses as a standard i want to use this as a way to discover more equipment and ideas on what we can do to scientifically prove spirits exist. If everyone doesn't mind can you take a few minutes and explain what scientific factors make a spirit to exist (not like a horrible death or attachment), but exactly what you think they are, what they are made of, where they come from, and anything you might feel to be useful in me researching and trying to find explanations for advancement in the field. I can take anyone's ideas to a professor and ask what the likelyhood that it's possible and maybe even lead to something better! Please document your name so if we do discover something we can be given credit for our findings as well! thank you everyone and i hope this will lead us to the right direction in proving what is here with us.
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:29 pm

Mj this is a great topic. My thoughts to this is that all spirits use energy whether it be magnetic or otherwise which is why we use the k2, emf and so forth but im sure there has to be other ways to detect there presents what it is I have no idea really...but Im sure we will have smarter people than I to help along this topic. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:34 pm

thanks bro! do you think that spirits could manifest from earth energy? the surrounding environment, maybe we can try to find some kind of earth element and test that, or make something that can create atmosphere energy to help them manifest
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:42 pm

I think i have an idea, maybe we can try to make a capacitor and test that, its cheap and you can get them big, the are made to store energy
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:42 am

I know there are some theories about limestone deposits or certain crystals, no not you Christel but the types of rocks that help in giving natural energy for spirits to manifest. Maybe those are called the green ghost... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:37 am

lol thats pretty funny, thanks mike for the info, i might try to research what properties limestone and crystals have and test these
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:54 am

Its limestone & granite

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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:31 am

oh ok ill do some research on those and see what i come up with, maybe ill ask my geology teacher what they are made of
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:52 pm

I got some great info from my teacher today on something we can use in the field called a mass spectrometer.

Spectrometer-This instrument when used correctly shows light in its place on the color spectrum allowing you to discern its composition. Most spectrometers are gazed through much like a monocular or telescope.



Light radiates from many sources. Sources such as the sun (produced by the nuclear fusion of metals and chemicals), a house hold light bulb (produced by the applying of electricity to a metal restrictor [the filament]), or neon lights at the neighborhood bar (produced by the application of electricity to a gas [neon in this case] creating a chemical reaction that radiates light. Every known form of light gives off an equally known and distinctive color pattern from the color spectrum. When a spectrometer is pointed at a light source it shows the light as a specific pattern from the light spectrum that can later be compared to all the known light patterns. What this does is allow you to discern what type of metal, chemical, or whatever it may have been that was producing the light. This is a crucial piece of equipment for the devout UFOlogist among you.

Mass spectrometry (MS) is an analytical technique for the determination of the elemental composition of a sample or molecule. It is also used for elucidating the chemical structures of molecules, such as peptides and other chemical compounds. The MS principle consists of ionizing chemical compounds to generate charged molecules or molecule fragments and measurement of their mass-to-charge ratios.[1] In a typical MS procedure, a sample is loaded onto the MS instrument, and its compounds are ionized by different methods (e.g., by impacting them with an electron beam), resulting in the formation of charged particles (ions). The mass-to-charge ratio of the particles is then calculated from the motion of the ions as they transit through electromagnetic fields.

MS instruments consist of three modules: an ion source, which splits the sample molecules into ions; a mass analyzer, which sorts the ions by their masses by applying electromagnetic fields; and a detector, which measures the value of an indicator quantity and thus provides data for calculating the abundances of each ion present. The technique has both qualitative and quantitative uses. These include identifying unknown compounds, determining the isotopic composition of elements in a molecule, and determining the structure of a compound by observing its fragmentation. Other uses include quantifying the amount of a compound in a sample or studying the fundamentals of gas phase ion chemistry (the chemistry of ions and neutrals in a vacuum). MS is now in very common use in analytical laboratories that study physical, chemical, or biological properties of a great variety of compounds.

!!!!!!! by using this we could scientifically prove what spirits are made of chemically and have solid evidence to prove whats out there!!! also found some sites where ppl use then investigating. we need to add this to our arsenal!!! check out these sites.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_spectrometry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrometer
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/bg-forum/index.php?topic=4587.0
http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Optics/Spectrometers/Spectrometers.html
http://www.oceanoptics.com/Products/spectrometers.asp
http://www.chemguide.co.uk/analysis/masspec/howitworks.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/magnetic/maspec.html
http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/Spectrpy/MassSpec/masspec1.htm
http://www.getghostgear.com/KnowledgeCenter/Spectrometer.htm
http://blog.seattlepi.com/thelifesciencesblog/archives/141631.asp
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:20 pm

Im not really sure on the granite and limstone theory other than what I have learned off the tv which is that these two types of rocks can store the energy from around and possibly keep "playing" the energy source for many years...I think thats how they explained it...Maybe Jeff can help us out with the granite part..lol As far as the other idea you have, really your on your own on that, honestly I have no clue on what it is or how to use it..lol
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:23 pm

haha i understand it but have no idea how to make one, we should maybe get one off that ghostgear site, i have seen portable ones. Yeah jeff should know some about granite, maybe he can get a piece and bring it to an invest
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:53 pm

I would be happy to bring a piece of granite, only $45 per sq ft to the group, hahahaha. However, since I've closed the shop and came back to working from home, I don't typically keep granite. I do however, have some remnant stone in my trunk, just let me know how much would be needed
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:57 pm

sweet bro, i guess maybe just enough to carry lol. i know that stuff is heavy, i wanted to place it in an active room and see if it contributes to activity. do u know what it is in granite that gives it energy production or the theory?
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:03 am

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sweet bro, i guess maybe just enough to carry lol. i know that stuff is heavy, i wanted to place it in an active room and see if it contributes to activity. do u know what it is in granite that gives it energy production or the theory?

Dude, I just sell the stuff, I don't actually know anything about it.


























HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't actually know the answer to your question
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:04 am

hahaha ohh i see. thats kewl just thought id ask
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:08 am

MJ NKYPS wrote:
hahaha ohh i see. thats kewl just thought id ask

Any time we're at an investigation, just remember to bring it up to me. I always have some small samples of granite in my car, along with some quartz if that would help.
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:09 am

yeah that sounds good, appreciate it bro
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:32 am

You know whats scary is that Jeff sells this stuff and we could find a paranormal link to the granite and then everyone would sue Jeff. Wait.... that wouldn't be good for him. J/K Jeff, well at least I hope so. You never know with blood crazy lawyers. I imagine that you would need a good amount of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:30 am

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You know whats scary is that Jeff sells this stuff and we could find a paranormal link to the granite and then everyone would sue Jeff. Wait.... that wouldn't be good for him. J/K Jeff, well at least I hope so. You never know with blood crazy lawyers. I imagine that you would need a good amount of it.

That's ok if they come after me, I know a guy who's a cop, I will just have him go shoot them for me
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:43 pm

MJ, how is your project coming along?
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:43 am

its going pretty well, forming lots of info right now hahaha thanks, im in the same boat as u trying to figure out how to use a lot of things
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:36 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTIJgIh86E&feature=related (ir spectrometry)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMpvGXgHEcU (computer spectrometer that can be used in the field)
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:37 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEHtAjp4SIU

this is everything that it comes with
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PostSubject: Re: Paranormal Research Hypothesis Experimentation   Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:12 am

Very good topic indeed MJ! I'm glad to see that you are breaking it down scientifically.
I believe that spirits are made of energy, they say a type of electromagnetic energy.


I think part of that it true though, when dealing with other realms and dementions I often question if that table is on our level. Through time and research I hope we can understand why the deceased keep contacting the living.
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